{"id":869,"date":"2026-04-14T03:58:40","date_gmt":"2026-04-14T03:58:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hhww.mindiii.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=869"},"modified":"2026-04-14T03:58:41","modified_gmt":"2026-04-14T03:58:41","slug":"epsteins-own-words-on-david-rockefeller-the-trilateral-commission-fractionalized-banking","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/hhww.mindiii.com\/index.php\/podcast\/epsteins-own-words-on-david-rockefeller-the-trilateral-commission-fractionalized-banking\/","title":{"rendered":"Epstein\u2019s Own Words on David Rockefeller, The Trilateral Commission &amp; Fractionalized Banking"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\ud83c\udf99\ufe0f Welcome to Healthy Happy Wise Wealthy!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this episode, we step into something complex, layered, and admittedly uncomfortable. Today, we are looking at the Steve Bannon interview with Jeffrey Epstein and also reading excerpts of a document called Bloodlines of the Illuminati. I chose this simply because I found it on the CIA.gov website.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I had a lot of anxiety making this podcast, but had more stress at the thought of saying nothing. The partial Epstein file release happened in between Season 1 and Season 2 of this podcast.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The purpose of Healthy Happy Wise Wealthy in many ways is to figure out what we&#8217;re &#8220;doing wrong&#8221; so to speak, so we can course correct and live better lives: lives that are healthier, happier, wiser &amp; wealthier. If we don&#8217;t take some time look at something this massive, we might as well not be here. That&#8217;s my opinion. This episode sticks with topics that do not cover crimes committed. Mostly as a way to keep our emotions regulated as we start to think through this.<\/p>\n\n\n \n<div data-block=\"gutenkit\/button\" data-post-id=\"869\" id=\"block-66dc4912-f210-48d1-bb8d-90ba6c267abb\" class=\"wp-block-gutenkit-button gkit267abb gutenkit-block\"><div class=\"gkit-btn-wraper\"><a class=\"gkit-btn\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/v2EXt5eTxnE?si=6c3n-uxJEoLNSJa7\">Click to Watch<div class=\"icon-right\"><svg version=\"1.1\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"32\" height=\"32\" viewBox=\"0 0 32 32\" class=\"gkit-icon\">\n<title>play-button1<\/title>\n<path d=\"M29.85 8.403c-2.136-3.7-5.585-6.346-9.711-7.452s-8.436-0.538-12.136 1.598c-3.7 2.136-6.346 5.585-7.452 9.711s-0.538 8.436 1.598 12.136c2.136 3.7 5.585 6.346 9.711 7.452 1.378 0.369 2.776 0.552 4.165 0.552 2.771 0 5.506-0.727 7.971-2.15 3.7-2.136 6.346-5.585 7.452-9.711s0.538-8.436-1.598-12.136zM29.839 20.108c-0.991 3.697-3.361 6.786-6.676 8.7s-7.175 2.422-10.872 1.431c-3.697-0.991-6.786-3.361-8.7-6.676s-2.422-7.175-1.431-10.872c0.991-3.697 3.361-6.786 6.676-8.7 2.208-1.275 4.658-1.926 7.141-1.926 1.244 0 2.497 0.164 3.731 0.494 3.697 0.99 6.786 3.361 8.7 6.676s2.422 7.175 1.431 10.872zM23.674 14.891l-10.283-5.937c-0.546-0.315-1.197-0.315-1.743-0s-0.871 0.879-0.871 1.509v11.874c0 0.63 0.326 1.194 0.871 1.509 0.273 0.158 0.572 0.236 0.871 0.236s0.599-0.079 0.871-0.236l10.283-5.937c0.546-0.315 0.871-0.879 0.871-1.509s-0.326-1.194-0.871-1.509zM22.841 16.467l-10.283 5.937c-0.013 0.007-0.039 0.022-0.077 0s-0.039-0.052-0.039-0.067v-11.874c0-0.014 0-0.045 0.039-0.067 0.015-0.009 0.028-0.012 0.040-0.012 0.018 0 0.030 0.007 0.038 0.012l10.283 5.937c0.013 0.007 0.039 0.022 0.039 0.067s-0.026 0.060-0.039 0.067zM25.831 8.803c-1.981-2.559-4.958-4.278-8.169-4.716-0.455-0.062-0.876 0.257-0.938 0.712s0.257 0.876 0.712 0.938c2.782 0.38 5.361 1.869 7.077 4.086 0.164 0.212 0.41 0.323 0.659 0.323 0.178 0 0.358-0.057 0.509-0.174 0.364-0.281 0.43-0.805 0.149-1.168z\"><\/path>\n<\/svg>\n<\/div><\/a><\/div><\/div>\n \n\n\n<p>\ud83c\udf1f Topics Covered:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Epstein&#8217;s own words on:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The Santa Fe Institute, David Rockefeller and the Rockefeller Foundation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The Trilateral Commission and how he was a part of it<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How the Trilateral Commission was founded by David Rockefeller to involve business people in the political process of countries across Asia, Europe and North America &#8211; all in Epstein&#8217;s own words<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Epstein explains fractional reserve banking and how the public and politicians doesn&#8217;t understand this<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How banks create assets through debt, not dollars<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How political leaders don&#8217;t understand finances<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>History of families of the &#8220;illuminati&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n \n<div data-block=\"gutenkit\/button\" data-post-id=\"869\" id=\"block-08d7323a-0486-476e-9bf5-8eb4f90638fa\" class=\"wp-block-gutenkit-button gkit0638fa gutenkit-block\"><div class=\"gkit-btn-wraper\"><a class=\"gkit-btn\" href=\"https:\/\/share.transistor.fm\/s\/3a017a08\">Click to Listen<div class=\"icon-right\"><svg version=\"1.1\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"32\" height=\"32\" viewBox=\"0 0 32 32\" class=\"gkit-icon\">\n<title>play-button1<\/title>\n<path d=\"M29.85 8.403c-2.136-3.7-5.585-6.346-9.711-7.452s-8.436-0.538-12.136 1.598c-3.7 2.136-6.346 5.585-7.452 9.711s-0.538 8.436 1.598 12.136c2.136 3.7 5.585 6.346 9.711 7.452 1.378 0.369 2.776 0.552 4.165 0.552 2.771 0 5.506-0.727 7.971-2.15 3.7-2.136 6.346-5.585 7.452-9.711s0.538-8.436-1.598-12.136zM29.839 20.108c-0.991 3.697-3.361 6.786-6.676 8.7s-7.175 2.422-10.872 1.431c-3.697-0.991-6.786-3.361-8.7-6.676s-2.422-7.175-1.431-10.872c0.991-3.697 3.361-6.786 6.676-8.7 2.208-1.275 4.658-1.926 7.141-1.926 1.244 0 2.497 0.164 3.731 0.494 3.697 0.99 6.786 3.361 8.7 6.676s2.422 7.175 1.431 10.872zM23.674 14.891l-10.283-5.937c-0.546-0.315-1.197-0.315-1.743-0s-0.871 0.879-0.871 1.509v11.874c0 0.63 0.326 1.194 0.871 1.509 0.273 0.158 0.572 0.236 0.871 0.236s0.599-0.079 0.871-0.236l10.283-5.937c0.546-0.315 0.871-0.879 0.871-1.509s-0.326-1.194-0.871-1.509zM22.841 16.467l-10.283 5.937c-0.013 0.007-0.039 0.022-0.077 0s-0.039-0.052-0.039-0.067v-11.874c0-0.014 0-0.045 0.039-0.067 0.015-0.009 0.028-0.012 0.040-0.012 0.018 0 0.030 0.007 0.038 0.012l10.283 5.937c0.013 0.007 0.039 0.022 0.039 0.067s-0.026 0.060-0.039 0.067zM25.831 8.803c-1.981-2.559-4.958-4.278-8.169-4.716-0.455-0.062-0.876 0.257-0.938 0.712s0.257 0.876 0.712 0.938c2.782 0.38 5.361 1.869 7.077 4.086 0.164 0.212 0.41 0.323 0.659 0.323 0.178 0 0.358-0.057 0.509-0.174 0.364-0.281 0.43-0.805 0.149-1.168z\"><\/path>\n<\/svg>\n<\/div><\/a><\/div><\/div>\n \n\n\n<p>Key takeaways:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The Trilateral Commission is involved in shaping politics across North America, Asia and Europe<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Fractional reserve banking means banks can loan up to 9x the money the actually have<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The Rothschild, Rockefellers and Trilateral Commission are all also mentioned in the Bloodlines of the Illuminati document\u00a0<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Epstein is well spoken, talks about reputation, tells nice stories. As he puts it, &#8220;I&#8217;m just a good kid&#8221;.\u00a0 The main takeaway here is to really feel how a well spoken, calm, intelligent people can still be a vicious predator.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Left vs right narratives may oversimplify deeper systems that have hijacked our country.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Staying healthy doesn&#8217;t mean avoiding uncomfortable topics.\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Some questions I ask:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>What is the actual reach and function of the Trilateral Commission?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Is the Trilateral Commission really &#8220;Some spooky thing, the Illuminati&#8221; as Epstein said?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Is it true that elected world leaders don&#8217;t understand finance and that this could be a way of controlling outcomes of elections or controlling elected officials?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What could be the significance to Epstein of the Santa Fe Institute since he donated extensively to them and also Zorro ranch is only an hour drive away?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Could the Bloodlines of the Illuminati document hold actual historical evidence that is relevant today?\u00a0<br><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Resource List:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Steve Bannon interview with Jeffrey Epstein, available on various site on Youtube<br>\u2022 Santa Fe Institute&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.santafe.edu\/\">www.santafe.edu<\/a>&nbsp;<br>\u2022 Rockefeller Foundation&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rockefellerfoundation.org\/\">https:\/\/www.rockefellerfoundation.org\/<\/a><br>\u2022 Trilateral Commission&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.trilateral.org\/\">https:\/\/www.trilateral.org\/<\/a><br>\u2022 Fractional Reserve Banking explanations (Federal Reserve resources)<br>\u2022 CIA.gov public library archives Bloodlines of the Illuminati, 1995&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cia.gov\/library\/abbottabad-compound\/FC\/FC2F5371043C48FDD95AEDE7B8A49624_Springmeier.-.Bloodlines.of.the.Illuminati.R.pdf\">https:\/\/www.cia.gov\/library\/abbottabad-compound\/FC\/FC2F5371043C48FDD95AEDE7B8A49624_Springmeier.-.Bloodlines.of.the.Illuminati.R.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Season 2 sponsor.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Founded in 2015, MINDIII is a Product Development and Data + AI Company that builds scalable digital products and intelligent data platforms. 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